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Do you shoot film ?

(I don't care either way)

in General Rants , Wednesday, April 12, 2017
Emuslive.org is a website I've been frequenting recently. It provides a nexus for everything related to film photography today, and it's pretty good. However...

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...however, there's one aspect that nags at me. There is an extensive set of template interviews with various photographers, entitled "I am and this is why I shoot film". Being a cantankerous old git, I'm really tempted to reply "really, who cares?". This, of course, is extremely uncharitable of me, to put it mildly, but the underlying point, which I don't think is totally trivial, is why should it matter if you shoot film? I can think of a few strong cases where it does matter, one being where archival is a primary concern, or others where it is imposed, for example being in a situation where you have to use a mechanical camera. Or, indeed, you want to use a format only available in film cameras.

But otherwise, the vast bulk of "reasons why I shoot film", apart from the geriatric "it slows you down" (really, ever tried an EOS-1v ?), seem to be associated with culture and fashion, and, inevitably, gear. The aesthetic stuff, sure, ok, but the idea by association that digital somehow has no aesthetic qualities is absurd. Anyway, developing an aesthetic surely means first working out for yourself the look you want. If that look happens to be best achieved using a particular film stock shot in a given way, fine, but I suspect in 99% of cases the process is reversed.

There's no need to turn it all into a cult.

There are some very clear exceptions, but the majority of film photography I see these days really takes the film "look" and lays in on extra thick with a blunt trowel. I find this really bizarre - back in The Good Old Days, when there was no choice, almost all today's film photos would have been consigned to the trash, at least by "serious" photographers. All the identifiers, excessive grain, weird colours, blocked shadows, dead highlights, were things that people went to huge lengths to circumvent. Film technology too was driven to eliminate these defects, as late-generation emulsions such as Portra, E100G, Ektar 100, Provia and so on clearly show. Digital just took it a step further.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - I shoot film because several cameras I want to use require it. That's it. And I manipulate the film, generally, to make it as clean as possible.

Still, Emulsive is a great web site, and all these interviews are well worth reading, but not because of all the film mumbo-jumbo (which some, to be fair, avoid), but rather because there are some really interesting photographers getting promoted. But are they interesting because they shoot film ? No, well, not to me anyway.

Postscript: Actually, if you read Hamish Gill's interview on Emulsive, and scroll down to "WHAT DO YOU THINK IS PEOPLE’S GREATEST MISCONCEPTION ABOUT FILM PHOTOGRAPHY AND HOW WOULD YOU SET IT STRAIGHT?", you find he presents this whole argument way, way more eloquently than I ever could....which is reassuring.
Posted in General Rants on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 at 04:16 PM • PermalinkComments (4)

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Thomas Rink April 19, 2017 - 10:05
I mostly do colour work, and use only digital since it's an easy and straightforward way to get pictures of reasonable quality. On the other hand, much of the work by other photographers that I like has been created with view cameras. So every now and then I feel an itch to try such a camera myself. They are now quite affordable second hand, not much more than a midrange digital camera. For colour work, however, the cost of a single exposure (4''x5'') would amount to €10-15 - the sheet of film, development and scanning in a local lab - this certainly prevents any reasonable experimentation, which would be necessary to learn the medium. In addition, it would probably prevent me from doing any meaningful work for at least a year or even longer.
So, long story short, I don't use film.
Best, Thomas

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Project Hyakumeizan April 23, 2017 - 3:58
Many thanks for introducing Emulsive - full of good stuff. Mmm, takes me back to the days when I carried two cameras - one for the pictures that wouldn't work with digital, and the other for the pictures that wouldn't work with film....

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David Mantripp April 24, 2017 - 9:32
I honestly don't think that there is any point in using film, per se, for colour work, UNLESS you have an over-riding motive. For me, for example, it is using the XPan, and to a lesser extent Medium Format. But it is really not tenable to say that holistically colour film is better than digital. Late technology colour negative like Portra 400 in sizes greater than 35mm put up a very good fight, and have a look which is very hard to replicate (and, I would say, actually also very unnatural 😊 ). But slide film, unless you expose absolutely spot on, not really.
But frankly, if you want to use a view camera, and unless you're a millionaire, I'm not sure what choice you've got...
Difficult, isn't it ?

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David Mantripp April 24, 2017 - 9:33
Hmm, yes, I had a similar experience in Greenland in 1999. I carried two cameras. One didn't work, and neither did the other...